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If—

by Rudyard Kipling

Poem Tamir quotes ('meet with Triumph and Disaster and treat those two impostors just the same'); Ian's wife has an 'If' tattoo and knows the whole poem by heart.

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  • love has no dark sideEp 8 · with Ma Anand Sheela

    Poem Tamir recites ('If you can dream and not make dreams your master... meet with triumph and disaster and treat those two impostors just the same') after Sheela says falling in a ditch is also a good choice.

  • the elixir of authenticityEp 7 · with Colin Gerrard

    Kipling's poem, quoted in Tamir's intro ('to watch the things you gave your life to broken, and build them up with worn-out tools'). He links it to kintsugi and the beauty of imperfection.

  • how to win at pinball & lifeEp 3 · with Ian Coll
  • don't pretend you aren't confusedEp 1 · with Tyler Dorchester

    A poem Tamir often quotes on equanimity: meet Triumph and Disaster and treat those two impostors just the same. He argues equanimity works for joy and sorrow but not for enigmas.

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  • Ian's wife's 'If' tattooIan Coll · Ep 3 · 51:59

    When Tamir brings up Kipling's 'If—', Ian shares that his wife has an 'If' tattoo and has the whole poem memorized.

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  • Triumph is as much an illusion as disasterTamir Barzilai · Ep 3 · 52:48

    If Kipling's triumph and disaster are both impostors, then even getting the Bugatti, the house, or the job is still maya; real stability has to come from the daily practice, not the result.

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